Interview Adam Trahan for Tenkara Enso blog

Adam Trahan fishing the streams below the Mogollon Rim with a Tenkara USA Sato
Interview Adam Trahan for Tenkara Enso blog 

Christophe': Hello Adam! Many people in the tenkara community know you as you managed the Tenkara-Fisher Forum which was one of the very first website in the west dedicated to tenkara but as in the whole internet universe very few of us have ever met you in real life. Can you please introduce yourself?

Adam: Hello Christophe’! Thank you for your time. My name is Adam Trahan and I live in Phoenix, Arizona. It is in the southwestern portion of the United States of America. I am the husband of a woman with a beautiful soul, the father of three great boys and I am the friend of many tenkara anglers in real life and in the virtual sense, all around the globe.

I started fishing as a young child, my Grandfather, who didn’t like fishing, taught me with a cane pole. He knew that a young boy needed to know how to fish. This is the reason why I look at fishing with a pragmatic view. I’ve always fished my whole life also doing many other exciting sports along with having an interesting and intense career path.

In 1995, two things happened that would alter the course of my life. I quit cross country hang gliding and I started creating a web site on small stream fly fishing. I used my love of fishing small streams to ignore the call of the sky. I dove into creating the best web site on this type of fishing with the help of many great anglers. My story of helping tenkara along comes from this same desire.

Christophe': I have discovered tenkara through the Youtube videos of Masami Sakakibara and it was a kind of revelation. I realized quite fast that tenkara was exactly the fishing technique that was really what I was lookind for. How did you discover tenkara and what was your reaction then?

I knew about tenkara long before most of the people in America but that is not when I discovered tenkara. About the same time I begain writing my web site on fly fishing small streams, Yoshikazu Fujioka started to make his. He and I began our online friendship then. Fujioka-san is a fly fisher that also does tenkara but his site started with fly fishing his favorite small streams.

I learned about fly fishing as a boy of about 10, it was really simple for me, not the simple of today’s tenkara, simple in that I was not taught to shoot a line. I wasn’t given instruction so I just gripped the line in my hand and fished with the line about as long as the rod. That pragmatic approach to fishing is what I used to teach myself fly fishing as aboy.

When I quit hang gliding, I was learning as an adult all the aspects of fly fishing, to really wring out the performance of a fly rod. I was learning about entomology, the history of fly fishing, about bamboo fly rods but focused on small streams as Fujioka-san was.

In 2009, I was deep into making bamboo fly rods. I I was learning from some of the best modern makers through another web site I created, www.grassart.net I was looking for a recipe for a long rod that I could create to fish like I did when I was a child. Tom Smithwick, a fellow bamboo fly rod maker suggested that I contact Daniel Galhardo. He was selling tenkara rods. So I called him and he set me up with an Ebisu.

I found out about Masami and Ishigaki-sensei through Daniel but in my own research online, I found out about Kazuya Shimoda. He is a genryu tenkara angler and he produced many videos on tenkara. So I began to follow him as well as the people Daniel was introducing tenkara outside of Japan.

I knew about tenkara, genryu and sawanobori 23 years ago but it wasn’t until I got my own rod that I understood the precise performance in a short range tenkara rod.

Christophe': You have traveled to Japan to meet Masami Sakakibara and Yuzo Sebata as well as their own "tenkara tribe"; how do you think these journeys have influenced you in your tenkara experience? Do you think that the people in western countries will ever be able to reach such a level of involvement in their own tenkara community? And also asuch a deep understanding of what tenkara can be for some people such Masami Sakakibara, Yuzo Sebata, Hisao Ishigaki and the generation that follows them. From my own experience I think that it will only exist on a very small scale gathering only the passionate tenkara anglers who will not jump in the wagon of the next fad in fly fishing world.

Adam: To answer your question quickly but with meaning, I learn about the Japanese people and their culture more than anything else when I travel to Japan. For me, Japan and the tenkara anglers there will always be a part of my tenkara.

With all due respect to all my friends and acquaintences, tenkara is now outside of Japan and the same passion can be found in France, Italy, America or South Africa. There are other countries too, passionate ambassadors. Tenkara is growing outside of Japan with the help of a lot of people around the globe.

Perhaps they will find their way to the Japanese mountains and the anglers there as you and I have and to the mountain streams in their own country.

Christophe': I am also a fishing gear minimalist and it does not only make my tenkara better, it also allows to carry some other kind of gear such as a camping stove, a reflex camera, a bottle of good beer. This equipment is useful to prepare a lunch break and also taking pictures of animals, mushrooms, etc.

What is the typical non fishing gear you carry on a tenkara fishing trip?

Adam: I have a few “types” of tenkara fishing trips that I take.

It’s important to remember that tenkara, not the fishing method but the look at why tenkara is so appealing, this simple approach, the minimalism works in many different areas of life. Because I live in a city, the areas where I fish are diverse and the types of trips I take are also varied.

For fishing the local ponds during the winter in my city, I take only my fishing gear.

When I travel by car to the streams in our state, if I do a day trip, I often only take my fishing gear if I am only fishing less than two or less miles of stream. I might take a repurposed PTE bottle for water and a knife.

For a day trip, I might take a daypack or a sling bag and in that, I might take a stove, cook pot, a repurposed PTE bottle of water, ramen, my little emergency essentials ditty bag, a sit pad and my Sake flask.

For a camping overnight trip, I will take my pyramid style tent with netting, a efficient sleep pad, my quilt, dehydrated meals, stove or lightweight grill, a small folding saw, a lightweight “sink” for clean up and fire dousing, a micro table, a small headlamp, and a few personal effects as well as stuffable down puffy jacket. 

One of my first Iwana in the Nagano watershed
When I travel by plane to a destination, my gear is not the same as my camping gear. I do not want to appear as a camper in my destination city. I use gear that is designed for multi-purpose. I use a backpack that has no outside pockets, it is easy to stuff into an overhead bin or under a seat. It is maximum legal airline carry on, I do not check my baggage. So my backpack is airline friendly in that it has handles on each side and the comfortable straps are stowable. My pants have a durable water repellant finish and do not hold water or odors. I use merino wool, performance clothes that can go a few days without looking dirty or worn. If I am camping, I use the tent, pad and quilt, the same utilities for eating. My tenkara gear changes once I get on a plane, I use very compact rods so that I can put them inside my bag and forget them until I am fishing.

I’ve learned very much about what I don’t need with a minimalist view that I found out about from learning tenkara.

Christophe': In your tenkara experience you have tested a whole lot of gear as some of us also have; do you think that it has brought you what you were looking for?

What is your favorite tenkara gear set today?

Adam: For a while, I made it a purpose to learn the different tenkara experts style by using their rods and setting them up the way they used them. Rods by Masami Sakakibara, Hisao Ishigaki and Yuzo Sebata.

My “work rods” are the Ito from Tenkara USA, that and the Sato gets used hard. The Rhodo is a tight quarters casting rod that I beat against the trees, that is a really well thought out rod. I use these because they are rods from a friend and from the company I learned tenkara with. They are also the rods I suggest to new tenkara anglers.

Sometimes I use my Sakura Sekirei because it has been around for a long time and is my first rod from Japan and excellent quality. I really like it. 

Early Tenkara fishing in AZ, this is a high mountain stream we call "Brookville"
Christophe': I have seen your reports on your blog and I had not imagined this state had these beautiful mountain meadows and forests, what is tenkara fishing like in Arizona?

Adam: Arizona has a stigma for being a desert. The Grand Canyon, spaghetti westerns, media associates Arizona with cactus and deserts. The thing of Arizona, we have mountains and snow! Our highest mountain is nearly 13,000’ and we have several mountain ranges above 7,000’ and a great portion of the state is above 5,000’ which is about the elevation that sustains a cold water trout stream. We have the largest ponderosa pine forest in the country! Our forests are varied, blue spruce, aspens, all kinds of trees and we even have a world famous for fly fishing tailwater river that carves canyons through solid rock, Lees Ferry in Marble Canyon, part of the Grand Canyon complex of the Colorado River!If you don’t mind, I would like to back up a little. I learned about the *Rosgen Stream Classification System decades ago. It is a system that classifies the different types of streams. In fly fishing and tenkara, there are many enthusiasts that struggle to understand stream types so I use the Rosgen system, it seems to work pretty well.

A section of Brookville on the Mt. Baldy massif
Some of my favorite alpine streams are in meadows high on a mountain. These high mountain flat bottom valleys promote tiny streams that meander slowly winding back and forth on itself. Sometimes changing course completely over the course of a season. These streams are just a few feet wide and half as deep. Undercut banks with grass lining the stream. These streams go through open areas and then get pinched off by the steep sided valley, drop in elevation in these pinches then open up again.

Typically, these streams breed trout (brook or brown) that were planted long ago. The game and fish organization often changes the population of a stream to meet the needs of their studies. Lately there have been efforts to grow the population of our native species, the Apache and Gila trout which are not my favorite. My favorite being brook trout, the reason being, they refuse to live in ugly places.

Oak Creek, one of my favorites is managed as a put and take rainbow trout fishery. It is a stream that I have been fishing for about 50 years off and on. It runs through Sedona, red rock country and I can get there in about an hour and a half. If it is 115 degrees in Phoenix where I live, I can drive up before the sun rises and bask in the 50 degrees of the deep canyon, catching the wild brown trout to 20+” and then turn around and be back home by early afternoon. I do this a few times over the course of the year, it’s one of my home streams and if I am catching the browns there, I’m doing well. I have helped many people through to the next level in their fishing by showing them the gentle and generous side of Oak Creek.

Papago Ponds catching the winter stocking incentives...
20 years ago I went through a decade of explore the high mountain streams phase that took long drives and then long hikes to get through. Secret streams that weren’t so secret, a fly fishing snob I was, knowing I held the key to being a expert. It’s so funny, I now fish the stocked ponds in Phoenix in the winter! Sometimes those damn fish have beat me! I drive 10 minutes a couple of times a week and chase these hatchery trout, some of them very big. I love fishing now, more than ever and I’m not beyond that scenario for fishing with a good friend or teaching a new angler.

Arizona has wonderful fishing opportunities year round. Cold water, warm water, 3.5 hours south we have the Sea of Cortez, a world class salt water fishery. We have fishing, you just need to use the windshield time in your car to realize it.f trees and we even have a world famous tailwater river that carves canyons through solid rock, the Grand Canyon!

* https://cfpub.epa.gov/watertrain/moduleFrame.cfm?parent_object_id=1193&object_id=1196

Christophe': Do you plan to travel to other places than Japan in the future for your tenkara experience? I know that you are a wine amateur, especially Bourgogne wines, so perhaps you would appreciate to discover France for its trout streams and of course the gastronomy? Or perhaps Italy and the people who keep the legacy of valsesiana style of fishing alive? 

Fishing with Nahuji-san, Japanese Masterclass Fly Fisher
Adam: I do.

I’ve been to Japan three times now, twice for fishing, my funds are limited for travel and a big trip like this is years in the planning for me. I do have plans to return but not as I have done in the past. I really want to visit Yoshikazu Fujioka and Yoshida Takashi and go through his day one school. He is responsible for many many people learning tenkara in Japan and his voice is largely missing here. The same with Kazuya Shimoda, I would really like to visit him too. I love visiting Japan but it is difficult as I have friends all over and I want the experience of visiting the big circle of friends, not just the same ones over and over. With respect, I like the community aspect, not just one single group, all of my friends there, I want to visit. My style of Japanese tenkara is not one group, it is community, a broad range of styles have influenced me, not just one group.

I was invited to go to South Africa to give a talk to an old club there when I was fishing small streams with a fly rod. I kick myself for not taking that offer up. I want to go to South Africa like nobodys business. The quality of streams is outstanding there, the community is old, focused and keen. I have friends there and helped get tenkara started in this country. I will go there in some fishing and tourist capacity one day. I’m going to do it, I missed my first chance but I will make that up.

I would be careful how you approach me about visiting France. This is how my trips start, with a mention in a conversation, that spark grows into a fire that burns hot inside of me. Yes, you know I love Jadot and yes, I want to visit France, those those mountain towns where many of the dreams you see in crazy sports are being lived by focused extreme athletes. It is my TARGET for the next adventure. Are you inviting me?

Christophe': Tenkara has been spreading in the west since 2009 and now there are tenkara anglers in real unexpected places such as Brazil, Iran, Israel, Morocco, South Africa (and many others) but tenkara remains a controversial topic in the fishing galaxy.

What is your idea of the development of tenkara in the future?

Adam: Good question Christophe’

As you know, I enjoy creating these interviews such as yourself. I create them just as much for myself, to learn from my subject and I share them if people what to read them.

In 2012, I interviewed Masami Sakakibara just as I interviewed you in 2015. I ask questions that I want to know about so that I learn and share with whoever wants to learn with me. I asked Masami what his definition of tenkara is and he responded with the following.

Masami Tenkarano-oni Sakakibara: I think Tenkara is about fishing in the beautiful mountain stream of Japan, for our beautiful native trout which inhabit them. Yet today, Tenkara seems to have spread to the US, Europe and more. I’m sure that they too have beautiful rivers and streams, with beautiful trout or other fish which inhabit them. Hence once Tenkara has left Japan, or it enters another country and culture, people who pick up a Tenkara rod there have the right and obligation to decide what Tenkara is for them. It is certainly not for me to decide.

I’m an American living in the Southwest portion of the USA. Although I travel to Japan and I practice tenkara, which I call Japanese style fly fishing out of respect to the Japanese and their contribution to the whole of fly fishing, I am not authentic.

Unless I live in Japan and fish the streams there with a rod, line and fly, I’m just doing it my way.

That’s what I love about tenkara, it is a simple but effective form of fly fishing. This is also why I say that “tenkara is easy to learn, hard to master and fly fishing is hard to learn, easy to master.

Tenkara is outside of Japan.

Consumerism is part of the Japanese and American society. Marketing is part of the tenkara fishing community. For my example, I learned about tenkara from Tenkara USA. This new form of fishing fit perfectly into the evolution of my fishing. As a fisherman, already I was developing interest in the method that Yvon Chouinard has made popular now, “simple fly fishing” and I wrote about that long before the marketing that Yvon and Patagonia have used in bringing their rods to market. This simple fly fishing was what I was doing on small streams only, not in the ocean and certainly not on tailwaters.

Daniel Galhardo is a kind and gentle person and his marketing techniques are oddly brilliant. He shows you in his way what tenkara is with a soft touch and an aesthetic that is what what I want in my fishing. He also educates anglers on the background of tenkara through the voices of the Japanese anglers sharing their methods. Daniel’s demeanor in sharing tenkara is kind, softspoken and he creates a gentle community, perfect for learning tenkara.

Recently I have experience the wrath of tenkara marketing and I if I was mean or hateful, I would expose it here but I am not. I know that I have a tendency to overthink and I am human and often make mistakes. So I will not write about what I think is wrong, I’ll keep centered on what is right.

Unless you are Japanese, practicing tenkara with a rod, line and fly, catching fish and selling them, you are not doing authentic tenkara. In my understanding from Japanese anglers, journalists, enthusiasts, books and media, this is where tenkara was formulated. Everything after that is an interpretation, even in Japan. In Japan, the tenkara community is a small portion of the whole of fly fishing there. In the Japanese fishing community, there is a western influence just as there is a Japanese influence on tenkara as it is practiced outside of Japan.

When a person picks up a tenkara rod, line and fly outside of Japan, it is his or her decision on how to practice it, NO ONE ELSE. It’s a choice. My choice is my way, as an American, sharing and supporting tenkara in the fashion that you read here. It is your choice to do it as you please. It is your decision where to get your information, it is your decision on how to practice it. In no way do I want to place my own “spin” on tenkara. That’s why I quit fly fishing, I didn’t want tenkara to be “simple fly fishing” for me, and that is what it is to some and I respect that. To me, tenkara is mountain stream fishing for trout, I also use it for still waters for trout and down in the cities and desert areas I use it for trout in season and panfish out of season.

This is the tenkara I practice. From my understanding, from traveling to Japan, interviewing tenkara anglers from all over Japan, not just one area, I’m getting a good version of it and I’ve developed my own practice of it from this method of self teaching. I promote Tenkara USA as the equipment and education for people that I teach because from day one, Daniel Galhardo got it right. His methods have created a very kind and gentle community which I find appealing. If someone wants a Japanese rod, I will help them with one from Sakura, the old rod shop and brand that has supported tenkara in Japan from day one. They chose me to help them promote their craft outside of Japan. Sakura rods are one of the oldest tenkara brands in Japan and I am proud to be a part of them as an ambassador to that brand. I sold many early adopters of tenkara back in 2010 on, their first Japanese rod.

If someone wants another Japanese tenkara rod, I suggest they visit Keiichi Okushi of Tenkaraya. He is a life long genryu angler and knows all the equipment and techniques from Japan. He approached me to help him with his shop which on it’s own was one of the highlights of my tenkara. That and getting my first rod from Tenkara USA, meeting many of the Japanese teachers and being invited to fish many of the central mountain areas of Japan.

So my idea of the development of tenkara in the future has not changed since day one because tenkara in Japan has changed very little. But once tenkara leaves Japan, as Masami has said, it is up to the person practicing it to do it as he or she pleases.

With the help of tenkara ambassadors such as yourself, Isaac Tait and other kind people above as I mention, tenkara will live as a gentle way to explore the waters we enjoy. There are many others that promote tenkara that are kind and gentle, too many to put into this interview which has already very long.

Christophe': Thank you very much Adam for your very interesting points of view about everything Tenkara; you are one of the most passionate Tenkara ambassador out there. I let you the freedom to conclude this interview the way you will.

Adam: The pleasure is mine Christophe. If you choose to visit my area, you are welcome in my home.

I want you to know that I have enjoyed your participation in tenkara in social media and on the internet since you have begun doing it. You are a kind soul, the world in general needs more people like you. 

Learning Tenkara from Masami Sakakibara
As far as tenkara is concerned, there are a couple of good ways to improve your tenkara and have a really fun time doing it. Getting to one of the Oni School’s that John Vetterli hosts would be a solid way to interface with Masami Sakakibara, a Japanese tenkara expert. His instruction will absolutely improve your tenkara. The Tenkara USA summit is a big event, much in the way of Japanese tenkara is themed here along with American tenkara experts. The Tenkara USA summit is a super fun event.

Christophe’Laurent, thank you for your dedication and your kindness in helping anglers learn and share tenkara, you my friend are the best at doing that.

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Christophe:
Bonjour Adam! Beaucoup de gens dans la communauté tenkara te connaissent parce ce que tu as créé le forum Tenkara-Fisher qui était l'un des tout premiers sites occidentaux dédiés au tenkara mais comme dans tout l'univers virtuel d'internet, très peu d'entre nous t'ont rencontré dans la vie réelle. Peux-tu s'il te plaît te présenter aux lecteurs?

Adam: J'ai commencé à pêcher enfant, mon grand-père, qui n'aimait pas pêcher, m'a appris avec une canne au coup. Il savait qu'un jeune garçon devait savoir pêcher. C'est la raison pour laquelle je regarde la pêche avec une vision pragmatique. J'ai pêché toute ma vie en faisant beaucoup d'autres sports passionnants en ayant un parcours intéressant et intense.

En 1995, deux choses sont arrivées qui allait changer le cours de ma vie. J'ai arrêté le vol libre et j'ai commencé à créer un site internet sur la pêche à la mouche. J'ai utilisé mon amour de la pêche dans les petits ruisseaux pour ignorer l'appel du ciel. J'ai plongé dans la création du meilleur site web sur ce type de pêche avec l'aide de nombreux grands pêcheurs. Mon désir d'aider le développement du tenkara vient de ce même désir.

Christophe: J'ai découvert le tenkara à travers les vidéos de Masami Sakakibara diffusées sur Youtube et c'était une sorte de révélation. Je me suis vite rendu compte que le tenkara était exactement la technique de pêche qui était vraiment ce que je recherchais. Comment as-tu découvert le tenkara et quelle a été ta réaction alors?

Adam: Je connaissais le tenkara bien avant la plupart des gens en Amérique mais ce n'est pas alors que j'ai découvert le tenkara. A peu près au même moment où j'ai commencé à écrire mon site web sur la pêche à la mouche des petits cours d'eau, Yoshikazu Fujioka a commencé à faire son site internet. Lui et moi avons commencé notre amitié en ligne alors. Fujioka-san est un pêcheur à la mouche qui pratique aussi le tenkara mais son site a commencé avec la pêche à la mouche de ses petits ruisseaux préférés.

J'ai appris la pêche à la mouche étant enfant d'environ 10 ans, c'était vraiment simple pour moi, pas aussi simple que le tenkara d'aujourd'hui, simple en ce sens qu'on ne m'a pas appris à lancer une ligne. Je n'ai pas reçu d'instruction alors j'ai juste saisi la ligne dans ma main et pêché avec la ligne à peu près aussi longue que la tige. Cette approche pragmatique de la pêche est la façon dont j'ai appris à pêcher à la mouche en tant que jeune garçon.

Quand j'ai arrêté le deltaplane, j'ai appris en tant qu'adulte tous les aspects de la pêche à la mouche, pour vraiment exploiter la performance d'une canne à mouche. J'ai appris l'entomologie, l'histoire de la pêche à la mouche, sur les cannes à mouche en bambou, mais je me suis concentré sur les petits cours d'eau comme le faisait Fujioka-san.

En 2009, j'étais investi dans la fabrication de cannes à mouche en bambou. J'ai appris de certains des meilleurs fabricants modernes à travers un autre site web que j'ai créé, www.grassart.net. Je cherchais une recette pour une longue tige que je pourrais créer pour pêcher comme je l'ai fait quand j'étais un enfant. Tom Smithwick, un fabricant de cannes à mouche en bambou, m'a suggéré de contacter Daniel Galhardo. Il vendait des cannes de tenkara. Alors je l'ai appelé et il m'a proposé la canne Ebisu.

J'ai découvert Masami et Ishigaki-sensei par Daniel mais dans ma propre recherche en ligne, j'ai découvert Kazuya Shimoda. Il est un pêcheur de genryu tenkara et il a produit beaucoup de vidéos sur le tenkara. Alors j'ai commencé à le suivre alors que Daniel introduisait le tenkara à l'extérieur du Japon.
Je connaissais le tenkara, le genryu et le sawanobori il y a 23 ans mais ce n'est que lorsque j'ai eu ma propre canne que j'ai compris la performance d'une canne tenkara à courte portée.

Christophe: Tu as voyagé au Japon pour rencontrer Masami Sakakibara et Yuzo Sebata ainsi que leur propre «tribu tenkara»; penses-tu que ces voyages t'ont influencé dans votre expérience de tenkara? Pensez-vous que les gens dans les pays occidentaux seront un jour capables d'atteindre un tel niveau d'implication dans leur propre communauté de tenkara? Et aussi une compréhension profonde de ce que peut être le tenkara pour certaines personnes telles que Masami Sakakibara, Yuzo Sebata, Hisao Ishigaki et la génération qui les suit. De ma propre expérience, je pense qu'elle n'existera que sur une très petite échelle réunissant seulement les pêcheurs tenkara les plus passionnés qui ne sauteront pas dans le train de la prochaine mode dans le monde de la pêche à la mouche.

Adam: Pour répondre rapidement à ta question mais avec sens, j'apprends plus sur les Japonais et leur culture que tout au long de mon voyage au Japon. Pour moi, le Japon et les pêcheurs au tenkara de là-bas seront toujours une partie de mon tenkara. Avec tout le respect dû à tous mes amis et connaissances, le tenkara est maintenant connu hors du Japon et la même passion peut être trouvée en France, en Italie, en Amérique ou en Afrique du Sud. Il y a aussi bien d'autres pays, des ambassadeurs passionnés. Le tenkara se développe à l'extérieur du Japon avec l'aide de beaucoup de gens autour du globe.

Christophe: Comme toi je suis aussi un minimaliste et cela ne fait pas que rendre mon tenkara meilleur, cela permet aussi de transporter d'autres matériels tels qu'un réchaud, un appareil photo reflex, une bouteille de bonne bière. Cet équipement est utile pour préparer une pause déjeuner et prendre des photos d'animaux, de champignons, etc. Quel est le matériel en dehors de celui utile à la pêche que tu transportes lors d'une sortie de pêche au tenkara?

Adam: Il y a plusieurs "types" de sorties de pêche tenkara que je fais.

Il est important de se rappeler que le tenkara, pas la méthode de pêche, mais le regard sur pourquoi tenkara est si attrayant, cette approche simple, le minimalisme fonctionne dans de nombreux domaines différents de la vie. Parce que je vis dans une ville, les zones où je pêche sont diverses et les types de voyages que je prends sont également variés. Pour pêcher les étangs locaux pendant l'hiver dans ma ville, je prends seulement mon équipement de pêche.

Lorsque je me rends en voiture sur les rivières de notre état, si je fais une excursion d'une journée, je prends souvent mon équipement de pêche seulement si je ne pêche que moins de deux milles ou moins de cours d'eau. Je pourrais prendre une bouteille en plastique pour l'eau et un couteau.

Pour une excursion d'une journée, je pourrais prendre un sac à dos ou un sac en bandoulière (un Zimmerbuilt) et dans ce cas, je pourrais prendre un poêle, une gamelle de cuisine, une bouteille d'eau recyclée, des ramen, une pochette de matériel de secours et ma bouteille de sake.

Pour un voyage comprenant une nuit en camping, je prendrai ma tente de style pyramide avec son filet, un matelas de nuit efficace, mon duvet, des repas déshydratés, une cuisinière ou un grill léger, une petite scie pliante, un léger "évier" pour nettoyer et éteindre le feu, une micro table, une petite lampe frontale, quelques effets personnels ainsi qu'une veste à duvet.

Lorsque je voyage en avion vers une destination, mon équipement n'est pas le même que mon équipement de camping. Je ne veux pas apparaître comme un campeur dans ma ville de destination. J'utilise des équipements conçus pour de multiples usages. J'utilise un sac à dos qui n'a pas de poches extérieures, il est facile de le fourrer dans un bac à bagages ou sous un siège. Il fait la taille maximum autorisée par les compagnie aériennes, je n'ai ainsi pas à vérifier mes bagages. Donc, mon sac à dos est pratique pour les compagnies aériennes en ce qu'il a des poignées de chaque côté et les bretelles sont confortables et escamotables. Mes pantalons ont une finition hydrofuge durable et ne retiennent pas l'eau ou les odeurs. J'utilise de la laine mérinos, des vêtements performants qui peuvent passer quelques jours sans avoir l'air sales ou froissés. Si je fais du camping, j'utilise une tente, un matelas et un duvet, les mêmes équipements pour manger. Mon équipement de tenkara change une fois que je monte dans un avion, j'utilise des cannes très compactes pour que je puisse les mettre dans mon sac et ne plus y penser jusqu'à ce que je pêche.

J'ai beaucoup appris sur ce dont je n'ai pas besoin grâce à une approche minimaliste que j'ai apprise en apprenant le tenkara.

Christophe: Dans ton expérience du tenkara, tu as testé beaucoup d'équipement comme certains d'entre nous ont aussi; penses-tu que cela t'a apporté ce que tu cherchais? Quel est aujourd'hui ton matériel de tenkara favori?

Adam: Pendant un certain temps, je me suis donné pour objectif d'apprendre le style des différents experts du tenkara en utilisant leurs cannes et en les utilisant comme ils le font. Les cannes de Masami Sakakibara, Hisao Ishigaki et Yuzo Sebata.
Mes "cannes de travail" sont les Ito de Tenkara USA, et la Sato que j'utilise beaucoup. La Rhodo est une canne pour les petits espaces, c'est une canne très bien pensée. Je les utilise parce que ce sont des cannes créées par un ami et de la compagnie avec laquelle j'ai appris le tenkara. Ce sont aussi les cannes que je suggère aux nouveaux pêcheurs au tenkara.

Parfois, j'utilise ma Sakura Sekirei car elle existe depuis longtemps et c'est ma première canne japonaise et elle est d'excellente qualité. J'aime vraiment cette canne.

Christophe: J'ai lu tes récits de pêche sur ton blog et je n'avais pas imaginé que l'Arizona avait ces belles prairies de montagne et des forêts aussi étendues, à quoi ressemble la pêche Tenkara en Arizona?

Adam:L'Arizona est étiqueté comme un désert. Le Grand Canyon, les westerns spaghetti, les médias associent l'Arizona aux cactus et aux déserts. Le fait est qu'en Arizona, nous avons des montagnes et de la neige! Notre plus haute montagne culmine à près de 4000 mètres et nous avons plusieurs chaînes de montagnes au-dessus de 2000 mètres et une grande partie de l'état a une altitude supérieure à 1500 mètres ce qui correspond à l'altitude qui permet l'existence de cours d'eau froide. Nous avons la plus grande forêt de pins ponderosa du pays! Nos forêts sont variées, épinettes bleues, trembles, arbres de toute sortes et nous avons même une rivière mondialement célèbre pour la pêche à la mouche qui a sculpté des canyons à travers la roche solide, Lees Ferry du Marble Canyon, partie du complexe du Grand Canyon du Colorado!

Certains de mes ruisseaux alpins préférés sont dans les prés d'altitude. Ces vallées de haute montagne à fond plat favorisent la formation de minuscules ruisseaux qui serpentent lentement en méandres. Parfois ils changent complètement de cap au cours d'une saison. Ces cours d'eau n'ont que quelques pieds de largeur et très peu de profondeur. De l'herbe haute entoure ces ruisseaux. Ces cours d'eau traversent des zones ouvertes et se réduisent dans la partie de la vallée la plus escarpée, ils descendent dans ces vallées puis s'élargissent à nouveau.

Généralement, ces cours d'eau abritent des truites (saumons de fontaine et fario) qui ont été implantées il y a longtemps. Les instances de la pêche modifient souvent la population de salmonidés d'un cours d'eau pour répondre aux besoins de leurs études. Dernièrement, il y a eu des efforts pour faire croître la population de nos espèces indigènes, les truites Apache et Gila, qui ne sont pas mes préférées. Mon favori étant l'omble de fontaine, la raison étant qu'il refuse de vivre dans des endroits laids.

Oak Creek, l'un de mes favoris est géré comme une pêcherie à la truite arc-en-ciel. C'est un cours d'eau que je pêche depuis environ 50 ans. Il traverse Sedona, pays de roche rouge et je peux y arriver en environ une heure et demie de voiture. S'il fait 46 degrés à Phoenix où je vis, je peux y monter avant que le soleil se lève et profiter d'une température d'environ 10 degrés au fond du canyon, y pêcher des fario sauvages mesurant jusqu'à 50 centimètres et puis rentrer à la maison en début d'après-midi . Je fais cela quelques fois au cours de l'année, c'est l'un de mes ruisseaux préférés et si j'attrape des fario, je vais bien. J'ai aidé beaucoup de gens à passer au niveau supérieur dans leur pêche en leur montrant le côté doux et généreux de Oak Creek.

Il y a 20 ans, j'ai traversé une décennie d'exploration des ruisseaux de haute montagne ce qui a nécessité de longs trajets puis de longues randonnées. Des ruisseaux secrets qui n'étaient pas si secrets pour le snob de la pêche à la mouche que j'étais, sachant que je détenais la clé pour devenir un expert. C'est tellement marrant de pêcher maintenant les étangs de Phoenix en hiver! Parfois ces foutus poissons m'ont vaincu! Je conduis une dizaine de minutes une ou deux fois par semaine et je traque ces truites d'élevage, dont certaines sont très grosses. J'aime pêcher maintenant, plus que jamais et je ne suis pas hostile à aller pêcher avec un bon ami ou enseigner à un nouveau pêcheur.

L'Arizona offre de merveilleuses opportunités de pêche toute l'année. L'eau froide, l'eau chaude, à 3 heures et demies de route vers le Sud nous avons la mer de Cortez, une opportunité de pêche en mer de classe mondiale. Nous avons de la pêche, il suffit de consacrer un peu de temps à la conduite pour le réaliser. Nous avons même une rivière mondialement connue qui sculpte des canyons à travers la roche solide, le Grand Canyon!

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Christophe: As-tu l'intention de voyager vers d'autres destinations que le Japon à l'avenir dans ton expérience du tenkara? Je sais que tu es un amateur de vin, surtout de Bourgogne, alors peut-être aimerais-tu découvrir la France pour ses truites et bien sûr la gastronomie? Ou peut-être l'Italie et les gens qui gardent l'héritage du style de pêche valsesiana vivant?

Adam: Oui.

Je suis allé au Japon trois fois jusqu'à maintenant, deux fois pour la pêche, mes fonds sont limités pour voyager et un grand voyage comme celui-ci demande des années de préparation pour moi. J'ai prévu de revenir mais pas comme je l'ai fait dans le passé. Je veux vraiment rendre visite à Yoshikazu Fujioka et Yoshida Takashi et passer par son école en tant que débutant. Il est responsable du fait que beaucoup de gens qui apprennent le tenkara au Japon et sa voix est largement absente ici.

La même chose avec Kazuya Shimoda, j'aimerais vraiment lui rendre visite aussi. J'adore visiter le Japon mais c'est difficile car j'ai des amis partout et je veux avoir l'expérience de visiter un grand cercle d'amis, pas seulement les mêmes encore et encore. En toute déférence, j'aime l'aspect communautaire, j'aime visiter mes amis et pas seulement un groupe . Mon style de tenkara japonais n'est pas limité à un groupe, c'est une communauté, un large éventail de styles m'a influencé, pas seulement un groupe.

J'ai été invité à aller en Afrique du Sud pour parler à un vieux club quand je pêchais de petits ruisseaux avec une canne à mouche. Je m'en veux de ne pas à avoir répondu à cette offre. Je veux aller plus que quiconque en Afrique du Sud . La qualité des cours d'eau y est exceptionnelle, la communauté de la pêche est ancienne, concentrée et passionnée. J'ai des amis là-bas et j'ai aidé à faire démarrer le tenkara dans ce pays. J'irai un jour pour la pêche et le tourisme. Je vais le faire, j'ai raté ma première chance mais je vais le faire.

Je fais attention à ton approche à propos d'une visite en France. C'est ainsi que mes voyages commencent, avec une mention dans une conversation, que l'étincelle se développe dans un feu qui brûle chaud à l'intérieur de moi. Oui, tu sais que j'aime les vins Jadot et oui, je veux visiter la France et ses villages de montagne où beaucoup de rêves dans les sports extrêmes sont réalisés par des athlètes extrêmes. C'est ma cible pour la prochaine aventure. Est ce que tu m'invites?

Christophe: Bien sûr que c'est une invitation! Le tenkara s'est répandu en occident depuis 2009 et maintenant il y a des pêcheurs au tenkara dans des endroits vraiment inattendus comme le Brésil, l'Iran, Israël, le Maroc, l'Afrique du Sud (et beaucoup d'autres) mais le tenkara reste un sujet de controverse dans la galaxie de la pêche à la mouche. Quelle est ton idée du développement de tenkara dans le futur?

Adam: Bonne question Christophe.

Comme tu le sais, j'aime faire des interviews comme vous. Je les crée tout autant pour moi-même, pour apprendre de mon sujet que pour les gens qui les lisent.

En 2012, j'ai interviewé Masami Sakakibara comme je t'ai interviewé en 2015. Je pose des questions sur des sujets sur lesquels je veux apprendre quelque chose et les partage avec qui veut apprendre avec moi. J'ai demandé à Masami quelle est sa définition du tenkara et il a répondu par ce qui suit:

Masami Tenkarano-oni Sakakibara: Je pense que le tenkara est la pêche dans les beaux torrents de montagne du Japon, pour nos belles truites indigènes qui les habitent. Pourtant, aujourd'hui, le tenkara semble s'étendre aux États-Unis, en Europe et plus encore. Je suis sûr qu'ils ont aussi de belles rivières et ruisseaux, avec de belles truites ou d'autres poissons qui les habitent. Ainsi, une fois que le tenkara a quitté le Japon, ou qu'il entre dans un autre pays et une autre culture, les gens qui prennent une canne tenkara ont le droit et l'obligation de décider ce que Tenkara est pour eux. Ce n'est certainement pas à moi de décider.

Je suis un Américain vivant dans la partie sud-ouest des États-Unis. Bien que je voyage au Japon et que je pratique le tenkara, que j'appelle la pêche à la mouche de style japonais par respect pour les Japonais et leur contribution à la pêche à la mouche, je ne suis pas authentique.

À moins de vivre au Japon et de pêcher dans ses rivières avec une canne, une ligne et une mouche, je le fais à ma façon. C'est ce que j'aime à propos de Tenkara, c'est une forme simple mais efficace de pêche à la mouche. C'est aussi pourquoi je dis que "Tenkara est facile à apprendre, difficile à maîtriser et la pêche à la mouche est difficile à apprendre, facile à maîtriser."

Le tenkara vit en dehors du Japon.

Le consumérisme fait partie de la société japonaise et américaine. Le marketing fait partie de la communauté de pêche tenkara. Pour mon exemple, j'ai appris le tenkara par le biais de Tenkara USA. Cette nouvelle forme de pêche s'intègre parfaitement dans l'évolution de ma pêche. En tant que pêcheur, je m'intéressais déjà à la méthode que Yvon Chouinard a popularisée maintenant, la «pêche à la mouche simple» et j'en ai parlé longtemps avant la commercialisation qu'ont utilisée Yvon et Patagonia pour commercialiser leurs cannes. Cette pêche à la mouche simple était ce que je faisais sur les petits ruisseaux seulement, pas dans l'océan et certainement pas sur les queues de bassins.

Daniel Galhardo est une personne gentille et douce et ses techniques de marketing sont étrangement brillantes. Il vous montre à sa manière ce qu'est le tenkara avec un approche douce et une esthétique qui est ce que je veux dans ma pêche. Il éduque également les pêcheurs sur le tenkara à travers les voix des pêcheurs japonais qui aiment partager leurs méthodes. Le comportement de Daniel dans le partage de tenkara est d'être gentil, courtois et il crée une communauté parfaite pour apprendre le tenkara.

Récemment, j'ai expérimenté la colère à propos du marketing tenkara et si j'étais méchant ou colérique, je l'exposerais ici mais je ne le suis pas. Je sais que j'ai tendance à trop penser et que je suis humain et que je fais souvent des erreurs. Donc, je ne vais pas écrire sur ce que je pense est faux, je vais rester centré sur ce qui est juste.

A moins que vous ne soyez Japonais, en pratiquant le tenkara avec une canne, une ligne et une mouche, en attrapant du poisson et en le vendant, vous ne faites pas de tenkara authentique. D'après ce que j'ai compris des pêcheurs japonais, des journalistes, des amateurs, des livres et des médias, c'est là que le tenkara a été défini. Après, cela est une interprétation, même au Japon. Au Japon, la communauté tenkara est une petite partie de l'ensemble de la pêche à la mouche. Dans la communauté de pêche japonaise, il y a une influence occidentale tout comme il y a une influence japonaise sur le tenkara tel qu'il est pratiqué en dehors du Japon.

Quand une personne prend une canne de tenkara, une ligne et une mouche à l'extérieur du Japon, c'est à elle de décider la façon de la pratiquer, de personne d'autre. C'est un choix. Mon choix est à ma façon, en tant qu'américain, de partager et de soutenir tenkara à la manière que vous lisez ici. C'est votre choix de le faire à votre guise. C'est votre décision d'obtenir des informations, c'est votre décision sur la façon de la pratiquer. Je ne veux en aucun cas placer ma propre "touche" sur le tenkara. C'est pourquoi j'ai arrêté de pêcher à la mouche, je ne voulais pas que le tenkara soit une «pêche à la mouche simple» pour moi, et c'est ce que c'est pour certains et je respecte cela. Pour moi, le tenkara c'est un ruisseau de montagne pour pêcher la truite, je l'utilise également pour les eaux tranquilles pour la truite et dans les villes et les zones désertiques. Je l'utilise pour la truite en saison et le crapet hors saison.

C'est le tenkara que je pratique. D'après ce que je comprends, après avoir voyagé au Japon, interviewé des pêcheurs de tenkara de tout le Japon, pas seulement d'une région, j'en ai une bonne version et j'ai développé ma propre pratique à partir de cette méthode d'auto-enseignement. Je fais la promotion de Tenkara USA comme équipement et éducation pour les personnes que j'enseigne car dès le premier jour, Daniel Galhardo a bien compris. Ses méthodes ont créé une communauté très gentille et douce que je trouve attrayante. Si quelqu'un veut une canne japonaise, je vais l'aider avec une Sakura, l'ancien magasin de pêche et la marque qui a soutenu le tenkara au Japon dès le premier jour. Ils m'ont choisi pour les aider à promouvoir leur métier hors du Japon. Les cannes Sakura sont l'une des plus anciennes marques de tenkara au Japon et je suis fier d'en faire partie en tant qu'ambassadeur de cette marque. J'ai vendu à de nombreuses personnes ayant adopté le tenkara depuis 2010 leur première canne japonaise.
 
Si quelqu'un veut une autre canne de tenkara japonaise, je suggère qu'ils visitent Keiichi Okushi de Tenkaraya. Il est un pêcheur de longue date et connaît tout l'équipement et les techniques du Japon. Il s'est approché de moi pour l'aider dans son magasin et cela a été un des points forts de mon expérience du tenkara. Cela et obtenir ma première tige de Tenkara USA, rencontrer de nombreux enseignants japonais et être invité à pêcher de nombreuses régions montagneuses du Japon.

Donc mon idée du développement du tenkara dans le futur n'a pas changé depuis le premier jour parce que le tenkara au Japon a très peu changé. Mais une fois que le tenkara a quitté le Japon, comme l'a dit Masami, c'est à la personne qui le pratique de le faire à sa guise.

Avec l'aide des ambassadeurs de tenkara comme toi, Isaac Tait et d'autres personnes que j'ai mentionné précédemment, le tenkara vivra comme une manière douce d'explorer les eaux que nous apprécions. Il y a beaucoup d'autres qui promeuvent le tenkara qui sont gentils et courtois, ils sont trop nombreux pour mettre dans cette interview qui est déjà très longue.

Christophe: Merci beaucoup Adam de partager tes points de vue très intéressants sur tout ce qui concerne le tenkara; tu es l'un des ambassadeurs les plus passionnés du tenkara. Je te laisse la liberté de conclure cette interview comme il te plaît.

Adam: Le plaisir est pour moi Christophe. Si tu décides de visiter ma région, tu seras le bienvenu chez moi. Je veux que tu saches que j'ai apprécié ta participation au tenkara dans les médias sociaux et sur internet depuis que vous avez commencé à le faire. Vous êtes une âme aimable, le monde en général a besoin de plus de gens comme toi.

En ce qui concerne le tenkara, il y a quelques bonnes façons d'améliorer votre tenkara et d'avoir du plaisir à le faire. Se rendre à l'une des écoles de l'Oni organisée par John Vetterli serait un bon moyen d'entrer en contact avec Masami Sakakibara, un expert japonais du tenkara. Son instruction va absolument améliorer votre tenkara. Le sommet de Tenkara USA est un grand événement, à la manière des sommets tenkara japonais, avec des experts américains du tenkara. Le sommet de Tenkara USA est un événement super amusant.

Christophe, merci pour votre dévouement et votre gentillesse d'aider les pêcheurs à apprendre et à partager le tenkara, tu es mon ami un des meilleurs pour le faire.

Interview with John Lawrence Geer


I’ve known John for a little while now, I met him through social media. Recently, I joined Tenkara USA as a writer and contributor. At the 2017 Tenkara USA Summit, we shared some time together. Having met him in person, he is a super nice, knowledgeable about fly fishing and tenkara. In short, I look forward to the next time we meet and I hope I am able to do a little fishing with him. So with that and without any more introductions, I want to get into the interview.

Adam: Hey John! I know this might be a stretch for you (the interview) but I appreciate you doing it. Outside of Tenkara USA, I want to tell you that the pictures you post tell a thousand words. You are an experienced fly angler, a tenkara fisher and your story is worth telling, even if it’s just a little slice here.

Let me begin with a thank you for accepting my invitation. I appreciate it and I’m sure our community will enjoy getting to know about you.

“Can you tell us a little bit about yourself?”

John Lawrence Geer: Hi Adam. Thanks for interviewing me and the nice intro. I grew up fishing in southern Illinois on strip pit lakes and farm ponds. We’d took most of our family vacations when I was younger to fish in Missouri on their trout parks, which are basically spring creeks managed as put and take fisheries, and then the large warm water fisheries there when I got older.

My parents moved to Missouri when my Dad retired, so I spent a lot more time there after that. I would fish the big reservoirs with my Dad, and went back to fishing some of the trout streams on my own.

My Dad was more of a bass guy, but Grandpa was a fly fisherman. He and my grandmother spent their summers in Idaho. Visiting them is where I got my first taste of fishing the western states. I loved it and moved to the region as an adult, first to Colorado and then to Montana. I’ve lived in Montana since October of 2002 and have worked for Tenkara USA since October of 2012.

Adam: From getting to know you, by what you choose to write about, what you share in social media, how we talk, I think you are a positive spokesperson for tenkara. I think tenkara and the world needs more upbeat, positive people and I appreciate your point of view.

“What makes you so happy?”

John Lawrence Geer: Mostly, I just put up a good front. Just kidding, but I do have my moments. You can ask my girlfriend or Daniel or TJ. They’ve all seen cranky John. I do think I’ve been super lucky in my life, so I feel like I have a lot to be happy about. I fell into a good place in my life. I had a rough year a couple of years ago, but it was stuff almost everyone has to deal with and things are pretty good now.

Adam: In my understanding, fly fishing and tenkara are similar but also very different. Fly fishing has many aspects, fresh and salt water, still water and moving. It can be very exciting and extreme like fighting a sailfish after teasing it toward you with a plug at the back of the boat, or it can be suspenseful, shuffling through a heard of rays out on a flat. Standing there safe in one spot, casting, catching, always mindful of where you step as you fight a barracuda or a bonefish ripping line. Fly fishing can be a different type of excitement too, in freshwater, like fighting a big rainbow in a strong river or stalking a big brown at a beaver pond.

With tenkara, it’s a pretty narrow activity, mountain stream, rod, line and fly. Simple in concept, pretty easy to do. Tenkara fishing mountain streams promotes getting into a rhythm, same equipment, very little in the way of variables, rod in hand, there is the stream, the fish are in their places, look over my shoulder, put in a cast, there is the take, tight! Grab the net, wet the hands, release the fish, move on… the rhythm in it, movement, and fishing is a series of methodical steps…

I hope you understand…

“Is tenkara too restricting compared to fly fishing?”

John Lawrence Geer: First, I want to say that I’m glad you mentioned rhythm. I think that’s a super important aspect of almost any type of fishing and especially tenkara and mountain streams. Knowing how long to fish a certain spot before moving on is one of the most important skill you can have.

As far as what restrictions, tenkara’s not too restricting for me, but we all choose what restrictions we’re going to hold to. Some of those restrictions are actually advantages, especially in the mountain stream environment tenkara evolved in. When I fish in that mountain stream environment, I very much stick to what I’ve heard you refer to as “Modern Japanese Tenkara”. That mode of thinking influences all of my fishing now, with a western fly rod or even a spinning rod, but I don’t usually feel bound by it when I’m away from a mountain stream environment.

Adam: I have no problem with the restrictions, as a matter of fact, I like the mountain stream environment. I’ve just started fishing bigger water and I’ve done some lake edges work. I did the same thing with my fly rod but I specialized the equipment, the length of rod and the weight of the line.

“What are your thoughts on tenkara, this simple, focused method of fishing? Can it compete with fly fishing? Are the two disciplines apples and oranges or are the alike more than they are apart?”

John Lawrence Geer: The simplicity and unburdened nature of it is a big part of what I love about tenkara. I love the way those “restrictions” work within the mountain stream environment. As I mentioned, I still do some western fly fishing and tenkara fishing has helped me strip that down to the things that are really necessary for me to enjoy it. It’s actually helped my productivity in a lot of ways. I’ve found a lot of the time, if something isn’t helping me it’s just in my way. So I don’t always see simplicity as a restriction. Sometimes it provides a clearer focus on what’s really helping me catch fish and enjoy the my time on the water.

For me, tenkara can be focused but doesn’t have to compete with western fly fishing and they can both compliment each other.


Adam: I believe tenkara has a broad spectrum appeal, more of a calling card to the outdoors, I think there are a lot of people that try tenkara because it is an easy way into fishing. It is much easier to learn for the masses when it comes to actually doing it. Of tenkara’s own method, I think it provides a much less frustrating experience for those new to fishing and the outdoor experience than say fly fishing or even conventional angling.

My view comes from a long history of fly fishing, working in a fly shop, creating online forums and teaching people to fly fish and then quitting fly fishing and doing tenkara only. I’ve spoken to quite a few, new to fishing enthusiasts about fly fishing and tenkara. l know quiet a few fisher people that use the method as a specialized tool in their fly fishing tool box.

I’ve always said that fly fishing is hard to learn, easy to master and tenkara is easy to learn, hard to master. I’m simplifying it in a sentence, both are really effective forms of fishing and the course of the experience of an angler has definite comparisons.

You have new people starting tenkara and you have people doing it that do fly fishing.

“What do you think John? What’s best for tenkara to grow? Is it better for tenkara as a complete method on it’s own to grow that way or as just a niche of fly fishing?”

John Lawrence Geer: Since I’ve been working for Tenkara USA, I’ve seen it grow in both of those ways, what Daniel calls tenkara as a method vs. tenkara as a tool. We (Tenkara USA) have tried very hard to tell the story of tenkara’s history in Japan and share those methods without telling people how they “should” fish. My personal love of tenkara is mostly for fishing on mountain streams with a kebari on the end of my line, but it’s also very rewarding to me when a parent or grandparent emails us about how much they’ve enjoyed taking their kids/grandkids fishing with our rods on a bluegill pond for the first time. That type of fishing was such a big part of my youth (of coarse not with a tenkara rod) that I’m always glad to hear we’re helping other people have those experiences.

I think it will continue to to grow organically in both ways, and I’m happy with that. I hope people will remember where it came from, but enjoy their rods with the opportunities that are available to them. I also think that some of those kids that start out catching bluegill on warm water ponds will end up exploring mountain streams later in life. That’s how it worked out for me, anyway.

Adam: Thank you for taking my call the other day, which leads me into my next question.

“Do you do anything else besides fly fishing and tenkara?”

John Lawrence Geer: You’re welcome. I tend to be pretty obsessive about my hobbies, but I can also drop them. Fishing is the one I never dropped, at least in my adult life. I used to be a fairly competitive pool player. I’m a Star Wars nut. I like reading about the Old West. I was very into archery at one point and decided to pick that back up this year. I can go down a lot of rabbit holes, but trying hard not to add too many new hobbies that require me to accumulate a lot more stuff.

Adam: I am getting older, I have less enthusiasm and place much less effort into other new to me activities. I’m a creature of habit too. When I found out about the minimalism in tenkara, I started to look at minimalism in other things, activities, life. I also play disc golf. I started with a larger bag when filled, carried 20+ discs, and then settled on a golf pull cart that holds a large bag that holds up to 20. That minimalism is creeping in to my disc golf and I’m starting to see a trend and I’m getting better at it. I may have to try carrying a little bag of just a few discs, just what I need.

“Has tenkara or a minimalist view helped you in anything else? Did you discover this minimalism from tenkara?”

John Lawrence Geer: For sure, as I mentioned I think it’s really helped my western fly fishing (when I do it). I’m trying to view archery through that lens as I get back to it. This time around I really want to get competent at shooting a simple traditional bow (non-compound). I played with that before, but really want to get competent with my recurve this time around.

Adam: John, is there anything you want to ask me?

John Lawrence Geer: How’s the trout fishing in AZ in February? It’s friggin cold here.

Adam: I know you have spent time in Apache Junction which is still down in the desert, an outlying town of the Phoenix metropolitan area. Up in the mountains above 5,000’ we have a lot of trout streams. Above 9,000’ in the winter, much of our streams are beyond gates that close in the late fall due to snowfall and roads that are not maintained. We have fishing in other areas but just like you, it’s cold. We get snow, hard freeze but the moviing water of our streams, we have fishing in the winter, you just have to get your hook down to the fish. They are moving very little, the water temperature drops, there is less light available and fishing slows down.

Adam: I studied the history of tenkara early on. I started out with a rod from Daniel and I fish a Tenkara USA rod today. I’ve been to Japan a couple of times now and have met the guys that Daniel introduced us to and have fished in many streams all over the central mountains of Japan.

With this overview of tenkara, I honestly have to say that it just isn’t necessary to visit Japan in order to learn a lot about tenkara. Yes, the rods came from Japan, much of the finer points of tenkara are from Japan but actually, those things can be learned on your own. English language books written by people outside of tenkara’s country of origin can also teach you about tenkara, the method. Daniel’s book for example, it’s a super good book to learn tenkara with.

You haven’t been to Japan, you learned tenkara as I did before I went and I’m sure you are pretty good at it.

“Do you have plans to go to Japan on your own or is that even a thought?”

John Lawrence Geer: Yes, I’d really love to go to Japan. I’d love to fish tenkara there and get to interact with and learn from some of the fisherman there. I’ve fished with Dr. Ishigaki quite a bit in the US, and would really like to see him fishing his home waters. I consider myself to basically be a student of his tenkara, largely passed down through Daniel, who’s thought me the most about it directly. I almost always pick something up when I fish with him, or at least become aware of something I should work on.

I’d also just really love to see Japan. I don’t know anyone who went there that didn’t have a wonderful experience, regardless of their reason for the trip. I think I’d want to spend some time doing touristy stuff besides just fishing, to be honest.

Adam: Make no mistake, I love sharing the history and I really enjoy sharing tenkara with my Japanese friends. For me, tenkara is a great way to bridge the gap to the fishing community in Japan. But it goes beyond fishing for me. I travel there for tenkara but my trips are mostly about Japan as a country, as a society. I learn more about the people than I do about tenkara. Japan is an amazing, beautiful country and the society just seems how it should be, very respectful of the individual and the individual supports the society by respecting the human experience. It’s such a cool place, everything from people being helpful, orderly, respectful, clean and taking your shoes off in the house, the onsen, the aesthetic nature and coexistence of people and nature.

Christophe’ Laurent is interviewing me at this time and some of my questions will overlap here with his interview, my thoughts there.

“Where do you see tenkara growing the most?”

John Lawrence Geer: It’s hard for me to say. It just seems to keep growing, more than I expected when I first saw it. I don’t trust my intuition, but guessing it will continue to grow as it has, some getting very into the methodology and others using tenkara rods as a handy, fun tool.

Adam: I know you represent tenkara at the trade show circuit.

“Do you have any stories from those experiences?”

John Lawrence Geer: Neither Daniel or TJ or I are wild partiers, so no really great stories. I have a lot of vivid memories, but I’m afraid I’ll have to save those for when we’re sitting around the dinner table after an event like the Summit last summer.

Adam: I learned tenkara on my own with the help of Tenkara USA videos. Compared to a western fly rod, a tenkara rod takes a certain technique on how to deploy it otherwise you have a mess with the tip sections slipping back inside of the larger butt end sections and then jamming the rod when you try to fix the problem without taking the rod apart.

As a customer service rep, do you have any first day advice to new tenkara anglers, as far as keeping their experience good without making a mess of the rod?

I know it’s a simple question but I teach and I know there is a good answer and a story here.

John Lawrence Geer: YES! Mostly relating to what you just described. Learn to set up and open and close the rod before you go fishing with it. It’s not hard, but it can be frustrating if you’re new to tenkara and trying to do it when you’re excited about fishing. I don’t have a specific story, but most people I’ve spoken who got off to a bad start would have benefited from this.

This is especially true for experienced fly fisherman. When they hear tenkara is a simple method of fishing, they assume they have nothing to learn. If they can set up the rod and open and close it properly, an experienced fly fisher can probably take it to the stream and catch fish, but they do need to learn at least that. There’s a whole new world for them if they’re open to it, but at least learn the set up.

Adam: We are quickly approaching a decade of tenkara in America. I’ve learned quite a bit about it and now I’m using tenkara as an adjunct to my travel. This summer, I’ll do two types of adventures with tenkara connecting them both. I’m fishing for rainbows in Kauai and I’ll packraft in Marble Canyon, upstream from the Grand Canyon.

“John, do you have any travel plans that are connected to tenkara?”

John Lawrence Geer: Well, Daniel and I are headed to Texas for a show in February and we’re spending a little extra time to fish some streams in the Texas Hill Country. I’m really looking forward to that. They have some beautiful clear streams that look almost like a mountain stream or a spring creek, but have warm water fish I'm them. Also, I’ve made a lot of friends in Texas that I’m really looking forward to seeing.

I’m guessing that at some point this year I’ll be back to Colorado for work or an event, and we don’t usually have to beg the boss too hard to get him to take us fishing when we’re there.

Adam: I would like to visit Christophe’ in France. As I’ve said, I learn a lot about the culture, the people when I travel to foreign countries. In France, I want to visit the mountain towns of Chamonix and Verbier. These mountain towns have always captured my interest.

I like Teluride, Silverton, Paonia, I really like Nederland (thanks to Steve and Kristin) and I want to spend more time in Boulder.


“Are there any mountain towns here that you want to visit?”

John Lawrence Geer: That all sounds like fun to me too, and I think Christope would be a lot of fun to fish with.

I’m ashamed to admit that with all the time I’ve lived in MT, I’ve never made it up to Glacier National Park. I really want to go there, both to fish and see that country. They do have a lot of beautiful mountain streams that friends of mine have told me are tenkara perfect. So, not really a town but a National Park I’d like to visit.

I always love going back to Boulder and Colorado in general for work. If I had to leave Montana, my first choice to move to would be Colorado’s Front Range. Even though I lived there for a while and have fished there quite a few times since I started working for TUSA, I’ve only scratched the surface of the mountain stream fishing there.

Adam: I want you to know I appreciate you. I appreciate your kind demeanor, you, TJ and Daniel make quite a team. I’m proud to be associated with you and I just wanted to say that in public.

Thank you.

I would like to close the interview like I do with all the others with a opportunity for you to say anything you want in closing.


John Lawrence Geer: Thanks Adam. I’m very glad to be working with you, also. You’ve put in a lot of work for tenkara since the very early days of it here, along with just being a very experienced angler with a really cool history to draw experiences from. Your insights are always welcomed.

I’d like to thank all of the Tenkara USA customers for supporting us and allowing me to have a fun job. Of coarse, I’d also like to thank Daniel for bringing tenkara here and for giving me that job and allowing me to be part of this whole tenkara movement. I have to thank TJ for being such a great coworker since I started. We’ve had a few people help us out at Tenkara USA, and they’ve all been great. We’ve been very lucky in that regard and I’m thankful for all of them, also.

I’d also really like to thank all the great ambassadors out there that have helped share tenkara with others. One of the things I’ve been most impressed with in the tenkara community is the generosity of spirit. There’s so many people that have helped others get on the water and enjoy fishing for no real compensation other than their own satisfaction, and I’m always very impressed by that. I can’t say that I’m so generous.

Thanks again for asking to interview me. I hope it wasn't too boring.

Interview with Toshiro Todoroki


Interview with Toshiro Todoroki

I’m a tenkara fisherman living in the desert southwest part of the United States. Here in Phoenix, Arizona, there is very little running water. We have urban ponds and desert lakes but I have to travel to fish tenkara in mountain streams. My interest is insatiable and I generate further interest from writing and sharing tenkara on the Internet. The fact that I live so far away from a trout stream is a burden and it also is a reason why I strive to meet other tenkara fisher people. I have a constant desire to interact, to learn, share and be a part of something bigger than my home where my tying bench is, my rod rack and the collection of tenkara angler’s kebari from around the world.

Like many of the people that I meet through interactions on the Internet, I also meet Todorok-san this way. My web site www.tenkara-fisher.com had gone through a change and I dropped the forum portion of the site whereas https://discourse.10colorstenkara.com filled in the missing forum with several of the members of my old forum. Todoroki-san and I meet there and started to interact and contribute together on different tenkara subjects.

I have really enjoyed learning more about tenkara from our conversations.

Todoroki-san offered to send kebari to me which I accepted (I like collecting and fishing kebari from my friends) and I will use them this next season on a couple of my favorite streams. He uses a variety of hooks and makes many different kebari that are quite aesthetic, pleasing to a fisherman. As a fly tyer, I am also learning different styles of tying from him.

I think this is a good place to start the interview, I am excited to get started.

Adam: Welcome Todoroki-san! Thank you for agreeing to this interview. I appreciate you for interacting with us in the English language which is good for the outside of Japan community and I appreciate the skill that it takes to do this and as I said, you do it well.

Toshiro Todoroki: Thank you for offering an interview.

Sorry for poor English.

I also was a member of www.tenkara-fisher.com

But being able to share information on the web is a happy feeling

I felt very lonely when Adam's website was closed but I was very happy to receive a restart from David Walker of 10 color tenkara (https://discourse.10colorstenkara.com/)

I think that I got a good opportunity to review tenkara for myself


Adam: You are very kind and I appreciate your sharing the topic of tenkara fishing. If you do not mind, I would like to make our interview a little bit more back and forth. For our readers, the way that I make the interview is to write it in one piece, imagining what the subject will answer to give the interview “flow” so offering you to ask questions adds in a little bit more complexity in thinking. I know you will do well with this as I have conversed with you a little before we have written this conversational article. Your English is good, I hope that I do not confuse you.

Toshiro Todoroki: I was sympathizing very much with Adam's tenkara website's knowledge and way of thinking Mr. Adam knowledge and idea of tenkara fishing is surprised to be richer than Japanese general tenkara fisherman.

"Do the quest for your tenkara fishing came from somewhere?"

Adam: Yes, the quest comes from searching for the magic of being a child. Fishing is a way for me to be young again. Tenkara is very much like how I started fishing as a child, with a bamboo rod on a stream, rod, line and a hook. From there I got into fly fishing, as an adult, I started to create fly rods from bamboo, and I found out about tenkara, very high performance rods, all the attributes of fishing that I enjoy.

My desire to fish tenkara comes from wanting to return to childhood.

Toshiro Todoroki: I am impressed with your research against tenkara

"Is there anything I can cooperate with?"

Adam: Absolutely. As we get further into the interview, I speak a little bit about how I look at tenkara fishing outside of Japan. But to preface, the series of interviews that I have done with Japanese tenkara anglers is to get the perspective of Japanese tenkara. 

I quit fly fishing.

I was specializing in small stream fly fishing for many years but I quit it to specialize in tenkara. 

I like where it started, the history, the practitioners and experts there but I have my own perspective. I'm one of the community yet I am not a follower, I do it in parallel and I contribute to it.

You can help me by your influence. I like the Japanese influence but I'm definitely going to practice it in America, my own way. 

I like the term, ten colors of tenkara. There are actually more colors than that, as many as there are people practicing it.

Adam: I am fishing tenkara going on my ninth year, no fly fishing, only tenkara. I have written interviews and articles with many tenkara experts in Japan and have discussed quite a bit about all different genres of tenkara. I am 57 years old and I was fly fishing small streams since I was a child. I quit fly fishing to learn tenkara knowing that I could come back to it if I wanted. At first this was a difficult thing to do but as I gained knowledge and skills, tenkara not only replaced my fly fishing, it satisfied my desire so much more, I still have not had the urge to do it. I knew if I continued to fly fish AND do tenkara, I would not learn the fine details, my focus would not be as sharp and I would not be able to draw the line between the two. To the effect of stopping fly fishing and only doing tenkara, it has not been hard and I know I’ve made a good decision for me and what I do.

The method of tenkara is very effective in mountain streams and that is where I specialized my own fly fishing for so many years before I found out about it.

“Todoroki-san, can you give us a look into your fishing as you practice it right now? What form of fishing do you do? Do you tye kebari and fly mostly for hobby or for fishing or both? How does your tying go with your fishing?”

Toshiro Todoroki: My tenkara fishing is a fishing way that has been done in the middle mountainous region of Japan.

I like fishing with kebari and FLY and so I learned about FLY used for fly fishing

I want to see the movements of fish reacting slowly to kebari so I will try various kinds of kebari


Adam: I like to get to know more about the tenkara angler that I am interviewing. Sometimes we are the same age, family, our work, who taught us fishing…

“Where do you live? How old are you? How long you have been fishing tenkara?”

Toshiro Todoroki: I am 59 years old and I live in Nagano city, Nagano prefecture

I live a mountain stream for about an hour by car.

Tenkara fishing experience because is from Azumino city of childhood is long

Adam: This part of the interviews that I do is my favorite. The background of tenkara anglers is always interesting. Even those who think they are boring or mundane, there is usually another interest that goes along with tenkara.

“Do you have any other interests besides fishing? Are you passionate about your job? Any other hobbies?”

Toshiro Todoroki: I went around a variety of sightseeing spots with sales of Kirin Brewery but now I am retiring and agriculture. My family is eating it because I am growing vegetables, rice and fruits. Since I went around the various places, I taught kebari from a local kebari fisherman. I like fishing, but I feel comfortable space for me in the mountains.

Adam: I am 57 years old, my other interests that I do are less and less, I pretty much just do fishing and hiking with a little bit of backpacking. I used to surf the mountain gullies with my snow surfboard, I did cross country hang gliding, hike and fly paragliding, I flew powered hang gliders and grew up skateboarding and surfing, I love the ocean. But now I just chill and travel with my tenkara…

Change in my life is a constant but I have always fly fished. I used to fly fish in mountain streams with really light and long fly rods ever before I found out about tenkara. That is actually how I meet Yoshikazu Fujioka, through our common love of fly fishing in the mountain environment. I was making a small stream fly fishing web site in the mid 90’s and Fujioka-san was reading it. He also started his own and we shared in each other’s adventures.

I finally got to meet Fujioka-san at the 2015 Tenkara Summit in Estes Park Colorado. He is a kind and gentle soul, he knows a lot about tenkara and kebari.

“Do you know about Fujioka’san and his reference web site?”

Toshiro Todoroki: 藤岡美和さん

I feel that it is a wonderful website full of enthusiasm and I am impressed that I explain it to overseas.


Adam: Fujioka-san is my oldest reference to tenkara and Japanese fishing in general. I found out about sawanobori from him too. But I found out a lot about tenkara specialists in Japan from Daniel Galhardo at Tenkara USA when I got my first tenkara rod from him. I’m nearly twice as old as Daniel and have been fishing a lot longer than he has but I’ve learned so much from him about tenkara.

Now I help him tell the story of tenkara.

For me, this is an honor.

He introduced me to Masami Sakakibara and Hisao Ishigaki as well as Yuzo Sebata and many other famous anglers. He also shared his lessons, his knowledge to a wide audience of English speaking tenkara enthusiasts through his different forms of media sharing. I’m grateful for Daniel-san’s introduction to these great tenkara anglers.

In 2009 when I got my first tenkara rod from Daniel-san, I was using the Internet to research tenkara. I do not speak Japanese so my searches where incomplete yet I was able to find out quite a bit about the method, the resources and the anglers that practiced it in Japan. With the help of my Japanese friends, I began to purchase books on tenkara and was lead to further resources.

I found out about Hiromichi Fuji and Soseki Yamamoto from other Japanese tenkara anglers like Eiji Yamakawa. Soseki Yamamoto was a prolific Keiryu author/enthusiast that detailed quite a bit about tenkara in his books. On my own, I found out about Kazuya Shimoda and his style of fishing tenkara. Shimoda-san had a film crew that produced tenkara videos and I must say that Shimoda-san has greatly influenced my own learning about tenkara as well as the other anglers that I have mentioned.

My point is that the community in Japan, even though it is very small is quite broad in scope of practicing tenkara. Many different schools of practice, many teachers and I believe my efforts to show this wide audience of Japanese tenkara enthusiasts has been good but there is always room for improvement.

“Todoroki-san, there are many Japanese tenkara enthusiasts young and old, some are famous, others are not but still important to tenkara, Gyoshin Suzuki is just another one that I believe has been forgotten. Keigu Horie is another school that has not seen much light in the English speaking world. Will you comment on the tenkara community in Japan, young and old? Have we missed anyone? Is there much more history of Japanese tenkara available to us?”

Toshiro Todoroki: I feel that the current tenkara fishing and the old kebari fishing are different things

Although both are traditional cultures, kebari fishing which is done in the northern part of central mountainous area is peculiar

About sakasa-kebari, I feel that Mr. Masao Migita (右田政夫) is the best worker

About tenkara - line, I feel that Mr. Hiromichi Fuji (冨士弘道) was developed epoch-making

The name itself of tenkara fishing is the name that has been spread by Mr. Soseki Yamamoto (山本素石) in the 1950s

Before that it was commonly called kebari-turi (毛鉤釣り)


Adam: I’m very appreciative of your time here and I want you to know that I have the greatest respect for this Japanese method of fly fishing.

Early on, I learned quite a bit from Masami Sakakibara, his enthusiasm for helping non-Japanese tenkara anglers is big. In an interview that I have done with him, I asked him to tell me what tenkara is and his answer regarding how once tenkara has left Japan was eloquent.

Masami Tenkarano-oni Sakakibara: I think Tenkara is about fishing in the beautiful mountain stream of Japan, for our beautiful native trout which inhabit them. Yet today, Tenkara seems to have spread to the US, Europe and more. I’m sure that they too have beautiful rivers and streams, with beautiful trout or other fish which inhabit them. Hence once Tenkara has left Japan, or it enters another country and culture, people who pick up a Tenkara rod there have the right and obligation to decide what Tenkara is for them. It is certainly not for me to decide.

“Can you tell me, what is your definition of tenkara?”

Toshiro Todoroki: Is a compass and a signpost to guide me to the mountain and mountain stream

Adam: I’m an American, I learned about tenkara from an American and a deeper understanding of it from the Japanese but I’ve learned from both cultures.

I’ve decided to help others understand that tenkara came from Japan but now, it is outside of Japan and my point of view is more like Masami Sakakibara’s.

I know what it is and I do it myself but that is where my tenkara ends and yours begins. Our definitions can overlap or join but ultimately, it is for you to decide the way you practice your fishing.


“Is there a difference between kebari and fly?”

Toshiro Todoroki: In the early 1960s it had made a FLY for export in Nagano Prefecture Azumino City

Fly fishing itself was also introduced earlier so I think that it affected kebari as well

Since Nagano prefecture was a summer resort for diplomats and from overseas person, fly fishing has been taking place for old time

In the 1950 's, both kebari and fly may not see a difference due to the old school

The biggest difference is that kebari is strong.

I think Sensibility tool Fly and harvesting tool kebari are different.

Is hard to explain because different also by era.


Adam: I have Japanese tenkara books that have western flys and Japanese kebari side by side. Sakasa style kebari share the same chapters as a Parachute Adams. Comparing and contrasting styles of the tenkara experts has always been something that I enjoy.

The “10 colors of tenkara” has been a great way of looking at tenkara for me, so many choices, each choice makes up the way we do it.

I like using Japanese bait hooks, they are thin, sharp and I like the shape. These hooks are designed for the telescoping rods and that is the type of rod configuration that tenkara rods use.

If I had a minimal choice of materials to make my kebari from, it would be, black thread, a grizzly neck hackle, a size 7 Japanese bait hook and a simple vice. Just to be tricky, maybe a little patch of deer hair and some dubbing.

“What would you choose for your minimal materials kit.”

Toshiro Todoroki: If it is the smallest tool, only hooks and threads are available and others are in the mountain.

It is the best if there is Japanese pheasant

Adam: I’m primarily a level line tenkara angler. I learned that from Ishigaki sensei. I like the attributes of a balanced level line. My rods are typically measurements like 2.7m, 3.3m, 3.6m, 3.9m, 4.1m and 4.5m. I used to construct lines specifically for each rod trying to match the personality of the rod with the construction of the line. I now use a “sweet spot” of the rod length plus 1.5 to 2m for the mainline and a .5m for the tippet. So now I make lengths of lines that reflect that. I build lines like 3m, 3.5m 4m, 4.5m etc. My favorite length of rod and line is a 4m to 4.5m rod with a 5.5m to 7m length. When I can catch stream and river fish with this length, it’s my favorite. My next favorite is 3.6m rod and a 4.5m line.

“Can you tell us your favorite rod length and line length combination?”

Toshiro Todoroki: The length of rod is 3.6 m and the line is 4.5 m

Does not that change the length is because it is to cherish the sense of rhythm go to upstream

Adam: Over the years, I’ve explored a lot of the equipment available to us from Japan. Early on, Sakura chose me as a representative for N. America and I also helped them set up distributers in South Africa and in other areas of interest. As I said before, I got my first rod from Tenkara USA and still, my favorite equipment is from them. My tamo, strap pack, and the rods are what I use most and the rod names are the Ito, Sato and Amago. Those rods get a lot use but I also like my Sakura Sekirei and my Nissin Zerosum rods (along with a Oni 4.5 Nissin Zerosum) too. I like nice equipment.


“Do you have a favorite brand? What are your favorite rods?”

Toshiro Todoroki: It is a Daiwa product. Favorite rod is tournament Tenkara (3.6m-4m zoom)

Adam: As I am getting further into my experience as a tenkara angler, I have lost interest in the “latest and greatest” rods preferring to become proficient with the rods that I have been using for years. I value experience rather than trends. With a fixed line rod, the variables become far less variable, I can cast a line with a raw piece of bamboo nearly as effective as a entry level tenkara rod. A refined rod is a pleasure to cast but I’m not so sure I could tell the difference between different rod class and brands.

I prefer the familiar experience rather than chasing a new rod each year.

“What do you think of that? Do you buy new rods?”

Toshiro Todoroki: I tried it with friends' various rod, but I think that it is a wonderful performance even for the low price rod of now.

Instead, I can not feel the performance improvement of expensive rod.

I like familiar rod is the most.

Adam: Phoenix, my city, being in the desert, it is hot in the summer and mild in the winter. During our winter months, our urban ponds become cool enough to sustain trout. When I was younger, I would not be caught fishing in this type of water. It wasn’t serious enough and did not require any skill.

Now that I am older (and hopefully more wise) I fish in the city pond almost exclusively in the winter. There are many that are just a few minutes drive from my home. I don’t have to travel for hours to catch trout, now I catch them much more in the winter because I go all the time.

I tend to use longer rods and lines because it is easier to reach the fish. Many of the fish that are stocked in the urban ponds are also bigger. It’s a lot of fun and sometimes they are hard to catch, it does take some skill.

I see in Japan, the same type of ponds, it looks like they are in the cities and there are many anglers.

“How do you feel about this type of fishing?”

Toshiro Todoroki: I use it when I can not go to mountain streams due to bad weather and I will enjoy the reaction of new kebari.

There are lots of ponds in Nagano Prefecture, but it can not be used because it is closed during the winter season

Adam: I really have a lot of fun with these interviews, I learn quite a bit from them. I would like to slowly start to close the interview.

“Todoriki-san, what do you think about the tenkara anglers outside of Japan, are we learning? Do you see anything that we are missing?”

Toshiro Todoroki: I made tenkara website in February 2009 because tenkara fishing was confused even in Japan.

It was the current situation that most tenkara information comes from the same book.

Of course Fly, as well as Kebari is gifts of pioneers of wisdom and experience, but knowledge of kebari was very poor in japan.

・・・Please see my website for detailed explanation.

This is the reason why the old Kebari angler is being introduced only by photos.

・・・The traditional kebari fishing method which is done in the central mountainous region was not introduced at that time.

The misrepresentation as lore was a state that was too bad.

Originally tradition kebari is a thing to be told when it is recognized as a friend, but too many imitations of shapes were too many strange things.

I do not think that there is a mistake because I think that it is fishing that changes depending on the target fish and environment.

Mistake may be able to fix, but I think that we should unfair information is eliminated.

If you learn the basics you can enjoy yourself.

・・・Me too

My fly fishing is also the same with 10' bamboo rod and silk line.

I think that reviewing my own fishing re-learning the basics

Adam: As much as I enjoy learning from the Japanese experts, I must say that my teacher is truly the rod, line and fly. The trout grade my tests and how I feel after I go fishing is how I get paid. I must say, I’m getting paid very well, I enjoy tenkara.

Sometimes when I am walking up a stream, hunting for fish, I lose time. Sometimes I am fishing a pool and it seems like I have worked it for an hour but I look at the watch and it was only 5 minutes. Other times, I find myself at the top of the valley, miles from my car and the sun is going down behind the ridge and it is getting colder and I thought I was gone for only a couple of hours.

Time is different when I am concentrating and hiking a forest stream.

“Do you feel this? Do you have a story about it?”

Toshiro Todoroki: I may be feeling the same way

I feel happy just being in the mountains

I am the best if I can see the fish there

Adam: Todoroki-san, thank you for your time, I really appreciate your point of view and I enjoy your participation. Please feel free to write anything you want here.

Thank you again.

Toshiro Todoroki: Thank you so much for having such a wonderful time

For me, this is an honor.

In my time, watching fly-tying from kindergarten childhood is not so common in Japan

Let's have fun with Tenkara fishing and kebari

Thank you again.